Posts by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho

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Cart Witnesses Today - I am not impressed

by pale.emperor in

just approached a cart then with two jw girls holding out mags.

they continued chatting to each other about car insurance when i took the watchtower from one of their hands.. ok, so it looks like i'll have to get the ball rolling.

i asked if they were jehovahs witness.

Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho

Too bad the carts don't have customer satisfaction feedback forms. I'd want to speak to their manager!

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Does Christianity Promote Self Hatred?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i think that christianity's teachings pose a very unproductive world view and are a danger to our survival.

their teachings that man is sinful and worthy of death and in need of a savior to rescue him and free him of his sinful tendencies or else feel the wrath of god.

these things that condemn man as sinful are his own powerful drives given to him at conception which he now must deny due to indoctrination and consign to his shadow(jungian).

@ttdtt Woody Allen wryly remarked that masturbation is merely "sex with someone you love." I don't know anyone that's loved their rapist. Alas, if you're a self-hating Christian, then ja... that's self-rape.

MUST... NOT... RAPE... SEEELLLLFFFF!!!!

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"But it gives my life meaning"

by Coded Logic in

it's not enough that we simply raise empirical challenges to these iron age beliefs saying, "jesus didn't really rise from the dead" or "muhammad didn't really fly to heaven on a horse.

" we must also give no quarter to this falsehood that religion can give peoples lives real meaning.

the truths about our identity, experience, and the future impacts that our decision will have on the world around us are much deeper and more profound than any culture or religion.

Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho

Sam Harris once said: "If I told you that I thought there was a diamond the size of a refrigerator buried in my backyard, and you asked me, why do you think that? I say, this belief gives my life meaning, or my family draws a lot of joy from this belief, and we dig for this diamond every Sunday and we have this gigantic pit in our lawn. I would start to sound like a lunatic to you. You can't believe there really is a diamond in your backyard because it gives your life meaning. If that's possible, that's self-deception that nobody wants."

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Spiritual Junk Food?

by stuckinarut2 in

we all know how the society likes to say that they alone "dispense spiritual food from jehovah" through the f&ds / gb.

the claim was that from russell's day, the society alone is gods channel.... so that got me thinking.... if they dispense spiritual food, yes spiritual nourishment to all witnesses, that clearly implies that all the past wrong teachings, and incorrect doctrines and practices must not have been "nourishing spiritual food" right?.

in effect, they were just like parents that order a fast food drive through "meal" to keep the kids happy and fill the hole in their tummy.. yes, rather than providing a well prepared and healthy nourishing meal, a quick-fix junk food fill was sufficient.

Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho

You know, way before I woke up, I was semi-aware of the "old light" history of the organization. I made a comment to my father with all sincerity (and it's something I stand by to this day): "We might look back and laugh at some of the ludicrous claims and teachings that the Society dispensed not even fifty years ago. I promise you that in fifty years, the new wave of Witnesses will look back at what the Society is telling us is 'truth' today and laugh at our silly old light." His response was, "well, if you really think the world will continue for another fifty years..." and trailed off. I didn't miss a beat. I said "YES! Because fifty years ago, they didn't think the world would be around for another five years!" I've never believed in the new system. Not even when I was in the organization. I could never see this world coming to a cataclysmic/divine end the way the Society presents it.

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New Theramin Trees video! "Creating sickness - Recovering from religion"

by stuckinarut2 in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrbnws-zitg.

enjoy!.

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@stuckinarut2 Nailed it.

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Doing your own research

by Reazon22 in

jw
friends

we all know watchtower doesn't encourage their members do research for themselves.

can anyone point out any articles where it mentions this?

any help would be appreciated.

Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho

@scratchme1010 You actually underestimate the brazenness of WT's demands for members to "shut their ears" to any information from outside the WT. I'm not kidding - that's their actual words. In a fantastic twist of irony, here is the FINEST example of propaganda in this article about... propaganda:

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-july-2017/propaganda-winning-battle-for-your-mind/

Propaganda 101: Instill fear into the hearts of your victims. Opening words of this latest WT article? "YOU are under attack!" The rest of the article is a contradictory battery of nonsense, terrifying Witnesses from looking outside WT approved literature. Sad. Really sad.

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New Theramin Trees video! "Creating sickness - Recovering from religion"

by stuckinarut2 in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrbnws-zitg.

enjoy!.

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@doubtfull1799 Trees touched on the "free will" explanation given to those who question why we live in a state of despair instead of paradise. It's always funny to hear "God created us with free will." That is a self-cancelling statement in itself.

JW: Do you not agree that God created us with the gift of free will?

Thinking Humanoid: Of course we have free will! That's what the Boss gave us. We have no choice but to have free will.

Really. Just think about it.

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On the Subject of Demons, I Have a Story to Tell.

by snugglebunny in

i have posted the full story on a fb site.

so my apologies to anyone who's already read it.

some of what i've written is what was told to me by my father.

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@Chook Ouija boards are successful due to something called the Idiomotor Phenomenon/Reflex. It is derived from the terms "ideo" (idea, or mental representation) and "motor" (muscular action). The phrase is most commonly used in reference to the process whereby a thought or mental image brings about a seemingly "reflexive" or automatic muscular reaction, often of minuscule degree, and potentially outside of the awareness of the subject.

Think of it like this: the glass on the board only moves when it has contact with hands. If no one were to touch it, would it still glide on its own?

If you want to give the idioemotor effect a test for yourself (without invoking the spirits of the underworld), go grab a hand-held pendulum to hover over a sheet of paper that has keywords written on it such as YES, NO and MAYBE. In response to any questions asked, the small movements in the hand will cause the pendulum to move towards key words on the paper.

Edit: Just read what @Island Man wrote above. Long story short: what he said.

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Evolutionist on their deathbed.

by Nimble duck in

i would really like to read the thoughts of an evolutionist as they lie on their deathbed.

their "honest to nogod" thoughts.

their terrors.

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@Nimble Duck: "I would really like to read the thoughts of an evolutionist as they lie on their deathbed."

Well, Nimble Duck. You no longer need to read the thoughts when there is plenty of information available for militant athiests on their deathbeds. One such example is the late, great Christopher Hitchens. On his deathbed, he remarked that the prospective of an afterlife appeared even more hollow than previously. In an interview prior to his passing, he had the following to say:

COOPER: In a moment of doubt… there might be a moment when you want to hedge your bets.

HITCHENS: If that comes, it will be when I am very ill; when I am half demented, either by drugs or by pain. I won’t have control over what I say. I mention this in case you ever hear a rumor later on, because these things happen and the faithful love to spread these rumors. I can’t say that the entity, that by then wouldn’t be me, wouldn’t do such a pathetic thing. But I can tell you that… not when I’m lucid, no. I can be quite sure of that.

COOPER: So if there is some story that on your deathbed–

HITCHENS: –Don’t believe it.

I suppose the only triumph one might consider of a last-minute conversion to Christianity is, at least the world will be losing another believer and not an atheist.

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Convention invitations

by dothemath in

so everyone is supposed to get all excited about the invitation work starting tomorrow, according to the announcement from the platform.. maybe this makes sense if you're giving out invitations in the city where the convention is, but what if you're many hours away?.

a huge part of western canada is scheduled to attend edmonton alberta this july.

so how does that go over giving out invitations in winnipeg, about a 13 hour drive(that's just driving time).. i know some are actually planning on flying there, so i can't see getting excited about getting the public to make the trek.. i was curious how this is going over in other areas?.

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@LV101 Yet, there's always an astronomical "deficit" read out during the announcements.